Now it’s time to try the Duelund CAST Ag (CAST Silver) on my Aikido Preamp. You might be interested to read the installation process.
Short words, here is the final installation photo. For the break-in purpose, I don’t use expensive configuration. Usually the main source is my old iPod Photo, connected with old hi-fi amplifier, then my DIY speaker. Few hours break-in session should be enough for initial impression. Although serious listening evaluation must be done at least after 100 hours of break-in period.
Some brief information of my Aikido Preamp, if you are not yet familiar with it:
- DIY Main Transformer, Z11 core/38 size with Germany/Australia copper wire (330V-CT-330V/100mA, 0-4-5V /5A, 3.2V-CT-3.2V/5A, 0-90V/50mA)
- Russian 5U4, 5U4G-B, or RGN 1054 Rectifier (available via Octal->B4 DIY converter)
- Choke Input with 3 Chokes total, no Resistor in Power Supply line, except Bleeder Resistor (TKD)
- Jensen 4-pole, ASC, and VCap TFTF Capacitor in Power Supply
- 6N1P and 6N6P tubes
- Russian K40 as filament AC Bypass Capacitor
- DACT 100K Stepped Attenuator
- Jensen Copper Foil Aluminium Tube as High Voltage Bypass Capacitor (inside PCB)
- Kiwame, Riken, Shinkoh, and Vishay S102 Resistor in critical position and Vishay L6C on “not really important” position
- Duelund CAST Ag (CAST Silver) as coupling capacitor
Power it up, let’s check the voltages! This is important to make sure all the parts will get sufficient and correct voltage. All measurement below are taken on loaded condition with my Sanwa PC510 TrueRMS multimeter.
The main rectifier is supplied with 321VAC-CT-321VAC or 642VAC end-to-end. This is measured in loaded condition. The unloaded will produce 333VAC-CT-333VAC or about 666VAC. It seems that the main transformer is very good in production and could produce very stable and less noise.
After rectified with 5U4 and Choke Input, we can get a clean 222.4 VDC. As you can see, the 320VAC input (640VAC end-to-end), could produce only 222 clean DC out. I wonder how not efficient this one! I lose almost 100 V! “Thanks” to the Choke Input topology 😉
The rectifier filament voltage measured around 5.1 VAC. Good!
The 6N1P and 6N6P filament measured at perfectly fit 6.3 VAC. Another excellent job!!!
After all test have been done perfectly, I started to play some music. Some equipments involved were Kimber MST-Cu Interconnect, Synergistic Research “custom” Speaker Cable, DIY “confidential” Solid State Amplifier, and my DIY Speaker. As source, I consider my “modded” iPod Photo should be enough for pre-break-in session. All materials were WAV and ripped from the original CD.
At first opening, I started with Ingram Washington with “What A Different A Day Makes”. I got a very solid baritone vocal of Ingram. The microdetails of the brass/cymbal definitely far beyond the CAST Cu. I almost couldn’t believe myself. I have been here for long time, listening the same music for months and years, but the cymbal and brass of the Ingram never heard so damned good! If before with CAST Cu, the cymbal and brass pronounced very well and natural, now with CAST Ag, you could heard even more. It’s seemed not just the tone itself played, but it was dancing all over you (more harmonically rich). Seemed ridiculous and hard to believe… All the other instruments played in a very solid, clear, and perfectly “in-line” and controlled.
Next, we continued with John Campbell on Howlin’ Mercy album, the “Down In The Hole” (also available from Dali Reference CD I). The guitar and some unique instruments sounded very real, natural, and really “dancing” on every tone played. I’ve been listening this album in many system so I knew most of the tones very well. The voice of John also produced with very good depth, just like he was singing really “down in the hole”. No surprise many people loves this track.
Next, I use short track from Amanda McBroom on Growing Up In Hollywood Town album, the “Love Letter” track. I love the piano and saxophone on this one. The sound stage was wide and depth. I must confirm if this one was wider than my previous CAST Cu and another thing was a better separation. Getting in the middle of the track, the music was getting more complex and crowded, but it seemed never crowded enough to trouble the CAST Ag. Enjoying this album even more, I went to “Peter The Hermit”. I could also confirm that this CAST Ag also very fast, even if your music was getting more complex, there was no sign that CAST Ag was running out of breathe. The low region also controlled very well, tight and short bass.
After quite satisfied with male vocal, I switched to Norah Jones with “Come Away With Me”. I have to admit this was not a very good recording, some distortion could be heard if you have a sharper ears. But overall, most people love the seductive vocal of Norah, included me. There was no doubt, the CAST Ag could produce a nice combination here. The guitar sounded so delicate. An extra note from me, the vocal although sexy and seductive, it seemed still not clear enough yet, like covered with a transparent fabrics. I could understand that most Capacitors – Duelund not excluded – would face this issue before passing the break-in period. I didn’t really “care” about this on previous male vocal testing, but quite noticeable on female. Note: after another 5 hours and repeat the same test, it was getting more and more transparent.
We continued with Chen Lily – LPCD45 album, Track #5 (æˆ‘å’Œä½ ). I always love Chen Lily sweet vocal. Although most of her album sounded a little bit “digital” and “artificial”, but the sound engineer could do the job perfectly to create an enjoyable album. The CAST Ag maintained the very good sound staging (or even better) and the sweetness of vocal. To be honest, I was a little bit pessimistic to try anything with Silver related material (first, it’s expensive – second, usually it tended to emphasize the mid-high tone), but luckily, this CAST Ag didn’t have such characteristic.
Finally, I played Patricia Barber with “Black Magic Woman” from Companion album. Wow, the speed was amazingly fast, detail, and very well controlled. If you are familiar with this track, you should know that there are so many complex parts inside this track. If your system doesn’t have enough capability to produce this complexity, then prepare for a headache, especially caused by the traditional high pitch instrument. The mids of this CAST Ag also well tested on this track and perfectly done.
Finally, I changed the rectifier with RGN 1054. The DC voltage produced downed to about 216 VDC. The sound, especially on the vocal, became more delicate, more transparent, and also add some resolution there.
Remember, this is still a preliminary testing. Complete and fair judgement should be done after next 150-200 hours. So, we have a long time to go. It’s also interesting to do a fair A-B match between CAST Cu and CAST Ag.
Now it’s time to sleep… 😉
Arie
April 5, 2010 16:39Mantaaaaaafffff….!!!
Congrats Oom Jim 😀
Pengalaman saya dengan “lontong coklat” aja udah begitu “breath taking”… apalagi dengan si “bakpaw”…. weleh 1000x…
Btw, ini yang mana ya? “DIY “confidential†Solid State Amplifier” hehehe 😀
Apakah si R*d*c*l*us G*i*cl*n* hehe.. 😀
Salam super duper ngilerrrrr,
Arie
SS Wong
April 7, 2010 08:57Seems like in early stage the silver version is already superior than a runned in cu foil cast?
SS Wong
April 7, 2010 08:58THE ASC OIL CAP AT POWER SUPPLY you use is 440ac type or 600dc type?
Jimmy Auw
April 7, 2010 09:14This Silver basically has better character, although we still can hear some “stiff” sound on the early stage.
I think mine is 440VAC.
Thanks.
Arie
April 9, 2010 12:43Pak Jimmy,
Itu kaki2 resistornya item2 dibungkus apa ya?
Waaah, gak cerita2 nih dulu ada stepped attenuator kayak gitu hehe.. 😀
salam,
Arie
Jimmy Auw
April 9, 2010 22:00Om Arie,
Itu dibungkus heatshrink biasa aja.
Attenuator DACT saya sudah pake lama, sejak di mBintaro sudah ada. Mungkin terkecoh karena nangkring di atas kertas karton buduk hehehe.
Thanks.
Arie
April 10, 2010 08:07Hahahahaha….
Komponen ‘dewa’ nya di kamuflasekan dengan hal2 yang tjoepoe hihihi….
salam,
Arie
Pierre
July 1, 2010 19:48Hi Jim,
I was on the way to buy an Aikido kit. A long time ago I felt in love with the 6SN7 so my first idea was to buy the octal version of the Aikido. I see you that use the 6N6P which on the basis of the electrical parameters seems to be near the bigger 6SN7. I have two questions for you:
1. did you had experiences with the octal version of the aikido? Any comparisons between 6N6P and 6SN7?
2. My line preamp feeds a II order electronic crossover with the OPA627 on the bass and LM4562 on the highs. I am interested in the output impendance of the Aikido. Did you make some measurements? Do you thing the aikido can drive an active xover without input buffer?
Have a nice day
Pierre
Jimmy Auw
July 4, 2010 20:08Hi Pierre,
If I could recall my brain correctly, 6SN7 similar with 6CG7 or 6FQ7 in 9pin version, not with 6N6P which is more likely to be similar with ECC99.
Octal version of Aikido should be as good as the Noval version, since they both are the same, despite the socket different.
How low the impedance that you need? You can refer to Aikido headphone amplifier mode with 5687/6DJ8/ECC99 in White Cathode Follower mode. This should bring low enough impedance.
Thanks.
beautox
August 17, 2011 13:14I’ve tried both octal and 9-pin aikidos with a variety of tubes, and imho the octal version with 6SN7 and /or 6SL7 tubes is much better than any 9-pin tubes I’ve tried.
Auw Jimmy
August 19, 2011 12:58Yeah sure, 6SN7 is very high priced compared to most 9pins variants 🙂 But it doesn’t mean you cant get the very best of 9 pins 🙂
Thanks.
kristoffer
December 2, 2011 16:05dear j.
can i please ask what you did with resistors on top on asc x386. I guess its placed in parallel. but is the cap also bypassed with v-cap? do you have a schematic on your site?
Auw Jimmy
December 2, 2011 22:19Hi,
This is bleeder resistor, which the function is quite common.
I dont bypass the caps with VCap.
Thanks.